tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post389445412473428760..comments2011-06-24T06:02:54.728-07:00Comments on Chronically Clueless: A Letter to Opposition Author Brian NelsonUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-24254484833646167932009-09-05T14:07:20.092-07:002009-09-05T14:07:20.092-07:00http://www.terra.com.ve/actualidad/articulo/html/a...http://www.terra.com.ve/actualidad/articulo/html/act83802.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-9990037215520938042009-09-04T06:44:33.151-07:002009-09-04T06:44:33.151-07:00George - if you don't speak Spanish then you h...George - if you don't speak Spanish then you have little hope of ever understanding Venezuela, never mind becoming an authority on it.<br /><br />Clueless - when is the next post. I note that Qucio is lauding the Facebook/Twitter initiative in all the countries of the world and in some 10,000 cities. ;)Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-3786389652660951032009-08-29T18:07:44.189-07:002009-08-29T18:07:44.189-07:00You are suggesting that this was an intricate, pre...<b><br />You are suggesting that this was an intricate, pre-planned coup, but your evidence is a phone call to a journalist the night before.</b><br /><br />No, I have not said that it was an "intricate" coup. I don't know how detailed or intricate the plans were. The evidence shows that they had planned to redirect the march towards Miraflores, that they had planned for some deaths, and that the military would renounce the Chavez government at that point.<br /><br />It certainly was pre-planned by opposition forces. Anyone who denies that, like Brian Nelson, is just flat dishonest.ChronicallyCluelesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15624140458479399146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-78478436807435048072009-08-29T18:02:46.593-07:002009-08-29T18:02:46.593-07:00You are suggesting that this was an intricate, pre...<b>You are suggesting that this was an intricate, pre-planned coup, but your evidence is a phone call to a journalist the night before. This just is not enough, please provide evidence of actual pre-planning.</b><br /><br />No, that's not the only evidence. The first video is of the coup-leaders themselves explaining their plan on national television. It takes an extremely dishonest person to try to deny that the coup was planned ahead of time when the fucking coup leaders themselves explained how they had planned it!!!<br /><br />Sorry you don't speak Spanish. Not my problem. And, no, I'm not going to translate these videos for you. If you want to understand events in Venezuela, you'll have to learn Spanish.ChronicallyCluelesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15624140458479399146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-39949676574397483632009-08-27T15:00:47.175-07:002009-08-27T15:00:47.175-07:00Hey clueless cunt, are you off your lithium such a...Hey clueless cunt, are you off your lithium such as your master is most of the time these days? You keep repeating the same thing over and over and nobody bites. Good thing you are not a fisherman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-33227595137651725332009-08-27T14:52:56.596-07:002009-08-27T14:52:56.596-07:00Chronically Clueless,
I took the time to analyze ...Chronically Clueless,<br /><br />I took the time to analyze the evidence that you provided in English, however I don't speak Spanish so anything you provide in Spanish is irrelevant to me [I believe this is meant to be an english language site?].<br /><br />As to your continued rudeness, please refrain from name calling, it's totally unnecessary and counter productive. As to your rebuttal:<br /><br />"The prefix "pre" means before. If the call was made the night BEFORE the coup, then by definition the coup was PRE-PLANNED (i.e. planned BEFORE)."<br /><br />Your semantics are correct, but this is, frankly, an extremely dishonest reading of the intention of my comment. <br /><br />You are suggesting that this was an intricate, pre-planned coup, but your evidence is a phone call to a journalist the night before. This just is not enough, please provide evidence of actual pre-planning.Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-52699081950566234082009-08-27T14:23:53.508-07:002009-08-27T14:23:53.508-07:00I don't believe I said anything that I deserve...<b>I don't believe I said anything that I deserved to be talked to so disrespectfully. </b><br /><br />You're being dishonest and not even taking the time to analyze the evidence before trying to discredit it. I'm not respectful to dishonest people. Sorry.<br /><br /><b>a tip that was received the night before the "coup" does not prove that any actions were pre-planned. The night before implies cramming and improvisation.</b><br /><br />George, this statement is so stupid that it refutes itself.<br /><br />The prefix "pre" means before. If the call was made the night BEFORE the coup, then by definition the coup was PRE-PLANNED (i.e. planned BEFORE).<br /><br />Seriously, where do you guys come from? Isn't there anyone among the opposition who is capable of any honesty?ChronicallyCluelesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15624140458479399146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-15827112474410453182009-08-27T14:17:50.404-07:002009-08-27T14:17:50.404-07:00Are the DIM and the DISIP so clueless (like you), ...<b>Are the DIM and the DISIP so clueless (like you), not to mention the Cuban G2. What are they being paid for? Several months before, a certain oppo were openly talking about a coup, especially the Venezuelan military attache in Washington.</b><br /><br />Right, and so the government just wanted to make sure Neustadlt was there to film the thing, so they called him to let him know. You know, the government wanted to help them get this announcement broadcast to everyone.<br /><br />Seriously, I can't believe the ridiculously hair-brained ideas that you oppo morons come up with.<br /><br />But regardless of your retarded ramblings, we don't have to guess whether or not it was the government that called because Otto Nuestadlt TOLD US WHO CALLED HIM!!!!ChronicallyCluelesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15624140458479399146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-39351545583202456942009-08-27T14:08:01.111-07:002009-08-27T14:08:01.111-07:00"Thanks for playing Anon, but you are just as..."Thanks for playing Anon, but you are just as dishonest as all your oppo-moron friends." -- Chronically Clueless<br /><br />This is an extremely rude response to my questions posed above in my very first comment on your site [August 27, 2009 10:18 AM]. I don't believe I said anything that I deserved to be talked to so disrespectfully. <br /><br />To continue our discussion, a tip that was received the night before the "coup" does not prove that any actions were pre-planned. The night before implies cramming and improvisation.Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-90728013933762781782009-08-27T13:10:04.393-07:002009-08-27T13:10:04.393-07:00"Oh, and the government officials just happen..."Oh, and the government officials just happened to know the place and time that several military generals were going to make a live TV broadcast renouncing Chavez's authority?"<br /><br />Are the DIM and the DISIP so clueless (like you), not to mention the Cuban G2. What are they being paid for? Several months before, a certain oppo were openly talking about a coup, especially the Venezuelan military attache in Washington. Stop pussy footing please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-16780225033645682032009-08-27T12:57:21.301-07:002009-08-27T12:57:21.301-07:00It seems to me that a journalist getting a tip the...<b>It seems to me that a journalist getting a tip the night before that there are going to be deaths the next day is a very vague piece of evidence. </b><br /><br />Its only vague if you refuse to look into the details.<br /><br /><b>Who was planning on killing which people? </b><br /><br />The call came from a good friend of Neustadlt's, Lourdes Ubieta, who Neustaldt describes as a close friend of Isaac Perez Recao, someone who was deeply implicated in the coup plotting by several participants. It was regarding a group of anti-Chavez military generals that were going to renounce Chavez's authority the next day. According to Mayela Leon's testimony they even gave her a password that she had to use to gain access to the announcement.<br /><br />It is pretty hard to imagine how this call could have come from anyone other than those who were planning on overthrowing the government the following day, or people very close to them. <br /><br /><b>You assume that means that the opposition was planning a coup, but it is just as likely that it could be government officials trying to suppress the opposition rally planned for the next day.<br /></b><br /><br />Oh, and the government officials just happened to know the place and time that several military generals were going to make a live TV broadcast renouncing Chavez's authority? And the government wanted to make sure Neustadlt could be there to film it. Sure. And the government also knew the secret passcode to get in the door.<br /><br />Thanks for playing Anon, but you are just as dishonest as all your oppo-moron friends.ChronicallyCluelesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15624140458479399146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-86314069892374839332009-08-27T10:18:40.974-07:002009-08-27T10:18:40.974-07:00It seems to me that a journalist getting a tip the...It seems to me that a journalist getting a tip the night before that there are going to be deaths the next day is a very vague piece of evidence. <br /><br />Who was planning on killing which people? <br /><br />You assume that means that the opposition was planning a coup, but it is just as likely that it could be government officials trying to suppress the opposition rally planned for the next day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-74109485971631031422009-08-26T19:03:12.075-07:002009-08-26T19:03:12.075-07:00Anonymous,
Your comment doesn't really make s...Anonymous,<br /><br />Your comment doesn't really make sense. Could you clarify what you are trying to say, and perhaps link to evidence to back it up?<br /><br />If you are referring to what Velasco and Rosendo, two of the coup leaders, said later to justify their actions well then of course they would say something like that. However, you still cannot refute the evidence presented here which is people from the opposition admitting to a pre-planned coup!!!<br /><br />It is easy to imagine how opposition forces would lie to justify their actions after the fact. But would they lie to implicate themselves in a coup that they had not planned? Not very likely.ChronicallyCluelesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15624140458479399146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-19822888676578542972009-08-26T15:21:16.075-07:002009-08-26T15:21:16.075-07:00If you review the testimonies before the National ...If you review the testimonies before the National Assembly following the events, you will find that Efrain Vasquez Velasco and Manuel Rosendo spoke of a high level meeting that took place on the 7th of April where the same subject was raised (and organized) to their horror. As a result Vasquez Velasco deposited the president and after being outmaneuvered by the Carmona gang reinstated him. History is always rewritten by the victors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-89972995386413993132009-08-26T14:47:48.337-07:002009-08-26T14:47:48.337-07:00Talk about one-sided hackery...
JSB, if the oppos...<b>Talk about one-sided hackery...</b><br /><br />JSB, if the opposition forces were not planning for deaths ahead of time, why did they tell Otto Neustadl on the night of April 10th that there would be deaths? Why was Mayela Leon surprised by the military generals discussing deaths before any deaths were reported?ChronicallyCluelesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15624140458479399146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-10324719632342933742009-08-26T14:30:34.378-07:002009-08-26T14:30:34.378-07:00...and still waiting....and still waiting.ChronicallyCluelesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15624140458479399146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-62847702678411153342009-08-26T07:39:35.155-07:002009-08-26T07:39:35.155-07:00"it also appears likely that the opposition f..."it also appears likely that the opposition forces had planned for deaths ahead of time."<br /><br />Talk about one-sided hackery...jsbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16526596147319229399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-63925924199921858702009-08-25T22:33:27.815-07:002009-08-25T22:33:27.815-07:00Anonymous,
I notice that since you don't have...Anonymous,<br /><br />I notice that since you don't have any arguments that can refute what I've said here, you simply post links as if that is somehow a response to what I've said.<br /><br />The problem is, your links don't refute any of my evidence. Brian Nelson just continues with his same dishonest nonsense. <br /><br />He pretends that the coup was a result of the people shot on April 11th, whereas the evidence I list here clearly shows that the opposition had planned the coup long before anyone was shot in the street. And it also appears likely that the opposition forces had planned for deaths ahead of time. <br /><br />All this nonsense about them not having a clear plan is refuted by the coup leaders themselves!!! They themselves have said that they DID have a plan, and they have explained what that plan was. Patricia Poleo has also clearly explained that the coup was planned ahead of time. <br /><br />I'm still waiting for ANY of you oppo morons to respond to the evidence presented here in an honest, rational way, and stop just trying to divert the conversation by posting nonsense that doesn't refute anything I've said.ChronicallyCluelesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15624140458479399146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-56110666797070317132009-08-25T18:15:50.402-07:002009-08-25T18:15:50.402-07:00http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-amsterdam/chv...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-amsterdam/chvezs-revolution-will-no_b_268475.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-67480856880862046422009-08-25T18:14:56.560-07:002009-08-25T18:14:56.560-07:00http://www.robertamsterdam.com/venezuela/2009/08/c...http://www.robertamsterdam.com/venezuela/2009/08/coup_vs_vacuum_of_power_interview_with_brian_nelson_on_11-a.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-27832444114734878152009-08-23T21:21:06.881-07:002009-08-23T21:21:06.881-07:00Haha I come back from vacation and find this blog!...Haha I come back from vacation and find this blog! Nice work. I'm wondering if you maybe should also be imitating Quico's prose "style": "and then like a balloon full of hot air, the rhetoric was punctured, and boom, fell off a cliff," and you wonder if it's intentional that not a single phrase on the blog isn't a cliche.jewbonicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179220313237449896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-30944541307838464052009-08-22T11:29:02.055-07:002009-08-22T11:29:02.055-07:00Yeah, you're right Anon. Hard evidence that d...Yeah, you're right Anon. Hard evidence that directly contradicts Nelson's account doesn't mean anything!!!ChronicallyCluelesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15624140458479399146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-79505680921766215082009-08-22T10:59:33.639-07:002009-08-22T10:59:33.639-07:00with this kind of garbage post and discussion bria...with this kind of garbage post and discussion brian nelson does not need to reply to anything: your own contradictions and prejudice take care of it all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-25623315913732785282009-08-19T13:51:21.070-07:002009-08-19T13:51:21.070-07:00Not an oppo attitude with respect to Neustadl test...Not an oppo attitude with respect to Neustadl testimony but a ni-ni attitude.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539674939399130169.post-55307988426822662832009-08-19T13:49:30.453-07:002009-08-19T13:49:30.453-07:00"For the last time I tell you this fellow con...<b>"For the last time I tell you this fellow contradicted himself."</b><br /><br />He didn't contradict himself about the most important part. When asked again about the phone call on April 10th in which they were already talking about deaths, he said <b>"ES TOTALMENTE CIERTO."</b><br /><br />You've tried hard. But all you've demonstrated here is just how dishonest you oppo idiots really are.<br /><br />Thanks for making this blog what it is Anonymous!ChronicallyCluelesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15624140458479399146noreply@blogger.com